Exclusive website for JVV, Bangalore

I am starting this NEW ‘discussion’ only to avoid a long ‘thread’ connected with other topics. Basically with the intention of how the JVVians can see/get all the important notices/ notifications and at the same time to show/be heard.

in the privacy of home, if we so desire. Simply said, get and give. With no commercial or commonfloor interference [pun intended]!

This can be done by having our own EXCLUSIVE weblog – call it a website or a blog. And ABSOLUTELY FREE!! Or if we want to be ABSOLUTELY EXCLUSIVE with a domain extension like .IN or .CO, it may cost us a ‘royal’ sum of Rs.99/- per year. Yes, per year.

This weblog, under the control and command of BOM can have pages like,

  •  Notices
  •  By Laws / AGM minutes
  •  Burning Topics [participation open to all 'registered' owners of JVV]
  •  Who is who [JVV Directory]
  •  Pictures

The home page can have the Names and Pictures of BOM with important telephone numbers.

Pages need not be limited but participation in terms of comments etc can be restricted to only JVVians.

The BOM can have an INTERNAL DISCUSSION page that is password protected and available only for BOM members.

Now the million dollar question is who is going to maintain this weblog?

Simple, I am sure all the members of BOM are familiar with PC systems and basic internet and hence NO EXTERNAL help may be required. Or, I am sure, tech savy inmates like Manish Shaw or Wg Cdr Thomas Varghese or many others can help out.

Or, yours truly, though living in the far off mountains (not yet become a saint or sanyasi) can volunteer as a tribute to the great JVV.

By the way, for those who want to ‘have a dekho ‘ please visit my website www.badaga.co that has more than 334,000 hits or http://www.jalvayuvihar.wordpress.com [with nearly 16,000 hits]

The future is in DIGITAL CONNECTIVITY. Let us grab it. For FREE!!

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Email to every flat owner

Concerning emails  and connecting all JVVians….

I feel like pulling out the hair on my head [though, unfortunately not much is left]. In this age of advanced internet technology, we still seem to live in a frustrating situation.

The ‘official agency‘ responsible for this, in my opinion, is the BOM, ie., Secretary and/or the Estate Manager with the email ID of “jvv540@gmail.com” . We do not get important emails/notifications because the Sec/EM, probably assumes that by sending the email to a few groups like jvvbangalore@googlegroups.com , jalvayu-vihar-apartments@commonfloor.com, or JVV-BLR-forum@apartmentadda.com, everybody is informed.

NOT SO. Many apartment owners may not be members of any one of these groups mainly because of emails getting repeated with the addtions/opinions of the ‘learned lot’ who forget that there is a ‘delete’ key that can be effectively used when they add their own gyan [opinion and comments] on any topic under the sun.

All that the Secetary/EM has to do is to send the intended information/notification to INDIVIDUAL apartment owner to the specific email ID which he/she has given to the office/registered with commonfloor, by including them in BCC [Blind Carbon Copy] when sending the email to the above mentioned groups. Yes, for the first time, this would be a bit of ‘tedious typing of the addresses’ since there may be 540 email IDs [at the max]in BCC. But, the next time, GMAIL , yahoo mail, hotmail etc will take care by popping up ‘suggested’ addresses/email IDs.

I am suggesting BCC instead of CC [Carbon Copy] because CC addressee is visible to ‘all’ while BCC addressees are hidden. So the second time the email is sent to any group, if the sec/em takes care to add everyone under BCC, the same will reach every one with NO INDIVIDUAL MAIL ID BEING MADE PUBLIC. This avoids unnecessary exposure and unsolicited spam.

There are many more ‘sophisticated’ means and methods of reaching out each and every JVVian, provided, the ‘individuals’ are interested in being inclusive and not complain that they are receiving unwanted/repeat ‘doses’ of the same emails with a comment added here and there. If any one is interested, many alternatives can be suggested.

By the way, a small suggestion to ‘individuals’ – have you ever thought of having an exclusive email ID like  jvv001 or jvv01 or jvv1 for Flat No.1 and so on? My ID is jvv23@gmail.com ( as my Flat #  is 23. Similar to what we have in case of BSNL centrix telephone number[2001 for flat no.1]?

Dear JP-Sir,

The very idea behind the formation of JVV common floor was to have some kind of common official forum where all the official matters related to JVV can be discussed thread-bare without fear or favor. However, unfortunately while most members have registered to the group, there are several members who haven’t registered and miss out on important communication.
At the same time, this forum should not be used for discussing other matters not related to JVV. There are other groups like jvvbangalore@googlegroups.com, where people are welcome to discuss any matters under the sun. I used to be a part of that group earlier, but very soon I discovered that i’m not able to keep up with the number of topics being discussed on that forum and that i won’t lose much sleep by not reading those topics of discussions so i had opted out.
Also, I see that several important discussions regarding water-tank and society registration are being discussed on the unofficial forums without ever making it to the official forum created for the benefit of the society. I’ve also observed that whenever a new BOM is constituted, they come with their own new mindset and it takes time for them to implement the official communications systems that was so effectively set up by AVM Thusu a few years back when we signed up withcommonfloor.com website.
One possible remedy is to add the official communication mechanism to the bye-laws of the society and make everybody abide by the same including preventing of spam emails. The centrex number-scheme can also be amended to the bye-laws. However, getting a consensus amongst this group is next to impossible :-)
Creating a separate email id only for JVV communications does not scale well, as people might never check their jvv email ids unless it is their primary email.
Regards,
Manish
C-345, JVV

Jal & Vayu – greater heights and daring depths!

Jal Vayu Vihar, Kammanahalli Main Road, Bangalore is a landmark in Bangalore. Being associated with it, that too as an owner of a flat, is an honour.

Though the majority of the residents are ex-fauji and are used to a strict ‘regimental and regulated’ life, some times, this gets reflected in the present ‘civilian – call it, retired’ life in a negative way. We tend to be close minded and refuse to accept new ideas and realities.

Take for example -BOM, Board of Managers, elected every year to run the everyday affairs of this great gated community. While those elected are the ones who have volunteered to ‘face the music’, the majority of us, the so called OWNERS of the flats, unfortunately, are eternal cribbers. In everything we tend to see ‘red’ and pick on the BOM. This, surely, kills the initiative and enthusiasm of the brave ‘VOLUNTEERS’ who have dared to accept the ‘ungrateful job’.

But let me hasten to add the ‘other side of the story. Some of the elected/selected members of BOM, become ‘tigers’ overnight and tend to treat the rest as mere mortals with no mind of their own. Prey waiting to be pounced at!

With all that, let us remember, that JVV is one of the best gated community in Bangalore. My friend Wg Cdr Thomas Vergheese, corrects me that JVV is one of the best in the COUNTRY. Fully agreed.

Still so much more can be done by ALL. With cooperation, we can ‘create wealth’ within and drastically reduce the ‘overall’ expenses in running the day to day affairs of JVV.

GEO who is doing roaring business in many areas, started of from our shopping complex. Remember the days when Kammanahalli was considered a ‘Kaadu- forest’ and people would come to JVV for basic needs like making STD phone calls from his shop/booth, a couple of DECADES ago?

Wg Cdr Thomas Verghese’s initiative of establishing ‘FRIENDS OUTLET’ is an example of how an out of box idea can bring in benefits to all.

We must, keeping our differences away, join in endevours like his. I dream of a day when JVV brings nothing but JOY.

For a start, let us make JVV a ‘HOT SPOT’ – I am talking about free WI-FI in all flats; Start a BONSAI club; Solar street lights with LED bulbs inside the colony etc etc

Jal & Vayu stand for greater heights and daring depths.Let us reach them.

Limitation is only in our minds. Open it up!

Ache din aane wale hi!

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Thomas Verghese ( Owner of Sector D, 529 ) Replied :
JP Sir, Thank you for your kind words.
Wi-Fi spots with a Low Tariff in clusters was being thought of by a few of us. There were other plans also like – small portable water trolleys with pumps to reach emergency water requirements instead of being at the mercy of Water Bowser Mafias – Gp Capt PU Bhat and the previous BOM team were looking at Solar Power generation and heating from above MPH and in clusters. We have experts in the field within JVV itself – Mr Vinay Shetty of Flat 19 and Cdr Venugopal of Flat 237
We could not pursue these & other ideas as we could not figure out the way to meet the initial overhead expenditures or because of ‘change of guard’. All BOMs have had well meaning people but end up in ‘Fire Fighting’ or get bogged down with Litigation.  The AGMs, many times, become ‘Debating Clubs’ more to prove ‘Who is right, instead of What is right’. We are generally unable to arrive at a consensus during the AGM or afterwards to work for the common good due to various reasons.
There is no need for any despondency, as all this must be an evolving issue of any group or community of diverse backgrounds. I hope and pray that God will give us the wisdom to realize the futility of clashing with conflicting ideas and work instead towards consensus solutions (Possible & Not Utopia!!!).
In the interim it would be great, if you could think of ‘Revenue’ generation on the lines mentioned in earlier mail or through other ideas. The ideas for implementation need to be nurtured with ‘Hand Holding’ by professionals and experts from within or outside JVV. These projects need not necessarily be done through the BOMs (ideal) but through other small groups with BOM’s  approval. They should be without any financial outflow from JVVAOA funds requiring the long tedious path of AGM approval.

We need your help.

With Best Wishes,
Thomas Verghese
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S.Bharaktiya [B192]
Dear Mr. Thomas, It is nice to read your mails as your are always striving to make JVV better, though it is already the best place in Bangalore.

Towards this aim, revenue generation can happen by offering amenities for which the residents are ready to spend. On this list is the developing of recreation facilities like indoor games above MPH on which you can put solar panels if you so desire.  There could be a card room, table tennis etc wherein middle and elder  residents could also participate. A hang out place like coffee shop for teenagers to elders. There is subsidy on solar installation so you cost of building the hall above Mph will be very little.
Revenue generation by providing water by tanker, will be possible only if you have truck mounted one and could be franchisee set up or in house. Hoardings on the periphery.
Revenue model for the conversion of domestic waste to gas and manure would be inline with the times.
The other approach is expenditure reduction.  The largest expenditure to my knowledge is water, to reduce this go for RWH or STP. In the latter case you will get manure for sale. For this you can approach the area MP for finance from Mplad scheme or the MLA.
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Mr Oswald Pereira ( Tenant of Sector A, 006 ) :
It is always a pleasure to see how so many of the so called owners strive to make JVV a Ultra Super Colony to live in,
I would like to bring in a few points here for revenue generation, without any extra efforts:
1. Bring all apartment owners under one umbrella, who are outside of the colony or out of Bangalore and rent/sell their flats. Friends Outlet could be engaged by the association on profit sharing model
This will benefit in eliminating crooks and unscrupulous elements from compromising the quality of JVV in terms of security and any unlawful exposure. This will help increase the revenue and ensure the colony is maintained in its true regimental spirit
2. Auction the outlets built on the erstwhile garbage dumping spots in a fair manner. Allotting them to a known few without an auction will limit our scope for a better deal
3. There are a number of silver oak trees just rotting and posing danger. They have commercial value. Selling them to timber/plywood industry will fetch good income, in lakhs of rupees, to the association. Re-plant other trees which serve for greenery and have commercial value as well
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JP replies : It is really nice to see that we are getting many positive comments on ‘OUR DISCUSSIONS’ to make JVV the best in Bangalore and beyond.

First of all, one of the mistakes, we – the so called apartment owners, have committed is treating the TENANTS as OUTSIDERS. High time we fully involve and integrate them into our system. We must invite them to our AGMs as non -voting guest members.

I am fully in support of what Mr.Oswald has suggested. Wg Cdr Thomas Verghese’s “FRIENDS OUTLET’ could be officially named as our ‘Real Estate Agents’ on mutually beneficial profit sharing basis. A win-win situation.

Yes, silver oak trees are indeed of commercial value. Recently we have sold a large number of trees from our tea estates. The price depends on the girth [the circumference of the tree at a height of 5ft from the ground] and the height of the tree. The price could be anything from Rs.5000 to Rs.10,000/- per tree. The saw mills readily buy them [aren't there a couple of them very close to JVV?]. They cut the trees to 8 or 10 feet lengths to cart off. These cut into slices and made as packing cases for export as well to be used in centering work for building work.

Yes, we can also plant more Silver Oak trees and see for ourselves that ‘money grows on trees’ apart from going green. The forest department gives the tree saplings FREE.

I am sure there are many more ‘commercially viable’ ideas. Welcome to the world of wealth creation !

A SOLDIER’S FATHER

A SOLDIER’S FATHER

By Wing Commander VENKI IYER

The helicopter appeared over the late morning horizon. We were to receive Mr Lachhman Singh Rathore who was visiting our flight to perform the last rites of his son, Flying Officer Vikram Singh.

Only the day before, I had sent the telegram, “Deeply regret to inform that your son Flying Officer Vikram Singh lost his life in a flying accident early this morning. Death was instantaneous.” It was the first time for me, to meet and manage the bereaved next of kin.
While most wives and mothers insist on seeing the body, many a time there isn’t a body to show. Flying Officer Vikram Singh’s remains were only a few kilos – scrapped from what was left in the cockpit. We had to weigh the wooden coffin with wood and earth.

The pilot brought the helicopter to a perfect touchdown. Soon Mr Lachhman Singh Rathor was helped down the ladder. A small man of 73 years clad in an immaculate dhoti. As I approached him, he asked in a near whisper, “Are you Venki, the Flight Commander?” “Yes Sir.” “Vikram had spoken to me about you. I’d like to speak to you alone for a minute.” We walked to the edge of the concrete apron. ‘I have lost a son, and you have lost a friend. I’m sure that you have taken great care in arranging the funeral. Please tell me when and where you want my presence and what you want me to do. I’ll be there for everything. Later, I would like to meet Vikram’s friends, see his room and, if it is permitted, visit his work place. I then would like to return home tomorrow morning.” A commander couldn’t have given me clearer instructions.

The funeral, with full military honours, was concluded by late afternoon. After the final echoes of the ‘Last Post’ faded away Lachhman Singh spent the evening talking to the Squadron Pilots. Vkram’s roommate took him to see Vikram’s room. Lachhman Singh desired to spend the night in his son’s room instead of the guest house we had reserved for him. Early next morning after a tour of the squadron area, my boss took him to his office. A while later the staff car took Lachhman Singh to the civil airfield two hours away.

As the car disappeared round the corner, I remarked to my Boss, “A brave man he is. Spoke to me like a General when he told me exactly what he expected from us during his stay here. I admire him.”

“Yes Mr Lachhman Singh Rathore is a warrior in his own way. He sired three sons. His first son Captain Ghanshyam Singh of the Gurkha Rifles was killed in Ladakh in 1962. His second son, Major Bir Singh, died along the Ichogil Canal in 1965. His youngest, Vikram Singh, who had the courage to join the Air Force, is also gone now. This simple farmer has contributed more to our country’s defence than any other I know.”

Yes, he is a brave Indian

But he does not get a “bharat ratna”. A millionaire who earned by endorsements gets it

Oh, M A N !

Whom do you pity HIM or HER??

What I want in a Man, Original List

1. Handsome
2. Charming
3. Financially successful
4. A caring listener
5. Witty
6. In good shape
7. Dresses with style
8. Appreciates finer things
9. Full of thoughtful surprises

What I Want in a Man, Revised List (age 32)

1. Nice looking
2. Opens car doors, holds chairs
3. Has enough money for a nice dinner
4. Listens more than talks
5. Laughs at my jokes
6. Carries bags of groceries with ease
7. Owns at least one tie
8. Appreciates a good home-cooked meal
9. Remembers birthdays and anniversaries

What I Want in a Man, Revised List (age 42)

1. Not too ugly
2. Doesn’t drive off until I’m in the car
3. Works steady – splurges on dinner out occasionally
4. Nods head when I’m talking
5. Usually remembers punch lines of jokes
6. Is in good enough shape to rearrange the furniture
7. Wears a shirt that covers his stomach
8. Knows not to buy champagne with screw-top lids
9. Remembers to put the toilet seat down
10. Shaves most weekends

What I Want in a Man, Revised List (age 52)

1. Keeps hair in nose and ears trimmed
2. Doesn’t belch or scratch in public
3. Doesn’t borrow money too often
4. Doesn’t nod off to sleep when I’m venting
5.. Doesn’t re-tell the same joke too many times
6.. Is in good enough shape to get off the couch on weekends
7. Usually wears matching socks and fresh underwear
8. Appreciates a good TV dinner
9. Remembers your name on occasion
10. Shaves some weekends

What I Want in a Man, Revised List (age 62)

1. Doesn’t scare small children
2. Remembers where bathroom is
3. Doesn’t require much money for upkeep
4. Only snores lightly when asleep, doesn’t fart in public
5. Remembers why he’s laughing
6.. Is in good enough shape to stand up by himself
7. Usually wears some clothes
8. Likes soft foods
9. Remembers where he left his teeth
10. Remembers that it’s the weekend

What I Want in a Man, Revised List (age 72)

1.  BREATHING
2.  DOESN’T MISS THE TOILET

KEEP READING, THERE’S MORE BELOW

AFTER  BEING MARRIED FOR 44 YEARS, I TOOK A
CAREFUL  LOOK AT MY WIFE ONE  DAY  AND SAID,
“Darling, 44 YEARS AGO WE HAD A CHEAP APARTMENT,
A CHEAP  CAR,  SLEPT ON A SOFA BED AND WATCHED
A 10-INCH BLACK  AND WHITE TV, BUT I GOT  TO SLEEP
EVERY NIGHT WITH YOU-A HOT 25-YEAR-OLD  GIRL.
NOW I HAVE A $500,000.00 HOME, A $45,000.00 CAR,
NICE BIG BED AND PLASMA SCREEN TV, BUT I’M SLEEPING
WITH A 65-YEAR-OLD WOMAN.  IT SEEMS TO ME THAT
YOU’RE NOT HOLDING UP YOUR SIDE OF THINGS.”

MY WIFE IS A VERY REASONABLE WOMAN.  SHE TOLD ME ,
“GO OUT AND FIND A HOT 25-YEAR-OLD GAL,
AND I… WOULD MAKE SURE THAT YOU WOULD ONCE
AGAIN BE LIVING IN A CHEAP APARTMENT, DRIVING
A CHEAP CAR, SLEEPING ON A SOFA BED AND WATCHING A 10-INCH BLACK AND WHITE  TV.

AREN’T OLDER WOMEN GREAT? THEY REALLY KNOW HOW TO SOLVE YOUR MID-LIFE CRISIS.

SEND THIS TO THE WOMEN WHO WILL ENJOY READING IT, AND TO THE MEN WHO CAN HANDLE IT!!!

[recd as a fwd email]

Elections – 2014

So, the general elections have been announced. There used to be a time when we were not bothered about voting and meekly accepted whosoever, from whichever party, was elected as our representative.

No more. Our ignorance and indifference should not result in our silently suffering for the next five years.

So please make it a point to VOTE. Our votes make a difference.

I do not belong to any political party but seeing the deep rooted corruption all around, I am convinced that we need a strong PM to lead the country and cleanse the system.

In my opinion, Narendra MODI of BJP can give us the much needed focus and development.

In most of the states, the biggest problem, affecting all of us is DRINKING. Even the school going children have taken to this evil due to its free  easy availability.

In Gujarat, Modi, has successfully implemented prohibition and has done away with another big drawback – ‘FREE BIE’ culture.

Let us ensure that NM is our next PM !
modi

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Home Truths

1.How BEDROOM smells

After MARRIAGE:

1st 3 yrs—Perfumes, Flowers,Chocolate,Fruits..
After 3 yrs—Baby powder,Johnson’s, Baby creams, Lotions,Baby oils..,
After 15 yrs—Zandu Balm,Vicks,Iodex,Relispray..
After 40 yrs—Agarbatti…, incense.

2. Four stages of marriage:

Mad for each other,
Made for each other,
Mad at each other
Mad because of each other

3. What’s Marriage?

Answer- MARRIAGE Is The 7th Sense of Humans
That Destroys All The Six Senses
And Makes The Person NON Sense…!

4. Definition Of Happy Couple -

HE Does What SHE Wants…
SHE Does What SHE Wants.

5.Commands.

Wife: Dear, this computer is not working as per my command
Husband: Exactly darling! Its a computer, not a Husband!!!

6. Mistakes

‘Laughing At Your Own Mistakes, Can Lengthen Your Life.”- Shakespear
“Laughing At Your Wife’s Mistakes,Can Shorten Your Life.”- Shakespear’s Wife

[recd as a fwd email]

One Liners

Best of Bob Hope’s ONE LINERS

1. I say no to alcohol, it just doesn’t listen.

2. A friend in need is a pest indeed.

3. Marriage is one of the chief causes of divorce.

4. Work is fine if it doesn’t take too much of your time.

5. When everything comes in your way you’re in the wrong lane.

6. The light at the end of the tunnel may be an incoming train..

7. Born free, taxed to death.

8. Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don’t have film.

9. Life is unsure; always eat your dessert first.

10. Smile, it makes people wonder what you are thinking.

11. If you keep your feet firmly on the ground, you’ll have trouble putting on your pants.

12. It’s not hard to meet expenses, they are everywhere.

13. I love being a writer… what I can’t stand is the paperwork..

14. A printer consists of 3 main parts: the case, the jammed paper tray and the blinking red light.

15. The guy who invented the first wheel was an idiot. The guy who invented the other three, he was the genius.

16. The trouble with being punctual is that no one is there to appreciate it.

17. In a country of free speech, why are there phone bills?

18. If you cannot change your mind, are you sure you have one?

19. Beat the 5 O’clock rush, leave work at noon!

20. If you can’t convince them, confuse them.

21. It’s not the fall that kills you. It’s the sudden stop at the end.

22. I couldn’t repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder.

23. Hot glass looks same as cold glass. – Cunino’s Law of Burnt Fingers

24. The cigarette does the smoking you are just the sucker.

25. Someday is not a day of the week

26. Whenever I find the key to success, someone changes the lock.

27. To Err is human, to forgive is not a Company policy.

28. The road to success…. Is always under construction.

29. Alcohol doesn’t solve any problems, but if you think again, neither does Milk.

30. In order to get a Loan, you first need to prove that you don’t need it.